Leaked tape of turkish war-plans to attack syria (translation First part)

Leaked tape of turkish war-plans to attack syria (translation First part)

SOURCE: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb8_1395951207


erdogan_dictatorForeign Minister Ahmet Davudoğlu
Head of Turkish Intelligence MIT Hakan Fidan
Undersecretary of Foreign Ministry Feridun Sinirlioğlu
General Yaşar Güler
for a reason (and wants to create one if the search is not fruitful) to
declare war against Syria. The leakage has two parts, the latter is yet
to be translated to English. Here is the first part.
Başçalanın Seçim Güdümlü Savaş Planı 1-1

Ahmet Davutoğlu: “Prime Minister said that
in current conjuncture, this attack (on Suleiman Shah Tomb) must be seen
as an opportunity for us.”

Hakan Fidan: “I’ll send 4 men from Syria,
if that’s what it takes. I’ll make up a cause of war by ordering a
missile attack on Turkey; we can also prepare an attack on Suleiman Shah
Tomb if necessary.”



Feridun Sinirlioğlu: “Our national security has become a common, cheap domestic policy outfit.”

Yaşar Güler: “It’s a direct cause of war. I mean, what’re going to do is a direct cause of war.”
Davutoğlu: I couldn’t entirely understand the other thing; what exactly
does our foreign ministry supposed to do? No, I’m not talking about the
thing. There are other things we’re supposed to do. If we decide on
this, we are to notify the United Nations, the Istanbul Consulate of the
Syrian regime, right?

Feridun Sinirlioğlu: But if we decide on an
operation in there, it should create a shocking effect. I mean, if we
are going to do so. I don’t know what we’re going to do, but regardless
of what we decide, I don’t think it’d be appropriate to notify anyone

Ahmet Davutoğlu: OK, but we’re gonna have to prepare
somehow. To avoid any shorts on regarding international law. I just
realized when I was talking to the president (Abdullah Gül), if the
Turkish tanks go in there, it means we’re in there in any case, right?

Yaşar Güler: It means we’re in, yes.
Ahmet Davutoğlu: Yeah, but there’s a difference between going in with aircraft and going in with tanks…
Güler: Maybe we can tell the Syrian consulate general that, ISIL is
currently working alongside the regime, and that place is Turkish land.
We should definitely…
Ahmet Davutoğlu: But we have already said that, sent them several diplomatic notes.

Yaşar Güler: To Syria…

Feridun Sinirlioğlu: That’s right.
Davutoğlu: Yes, we’ve sent them countless times. Therefore, I’d like to
know what our Chief of Staff’s expectations from our ministry.

Yaşar Güler: Maybe his intent was to say that, I don’t really know, he met with Mr. Fidan.

Hakan Fidan: Well, he did mention that part but we didn’t go into any further details.

Yaşar Güler: Maybe that was what he meant… A diplomatic note to Syria?

Hakan Fidan: Maybe the Foreign Ministry is assigned with coordination…

Ahmet Davutoğlu: I mean, I could coordinate the diplomacy but civil war, the military…
Sinirlioğlu: That’s what I told back there. For one thing, the
situation is different. An operation on ISIL has solid ground on
international law. We’re going to portray this is Al-Qaeda, there’s no
distress there if it’s a matter regarding Al-Qaeda. And if it comes to
defending Suleiman Shah Tomb, that’s a matter of protecting our land.

Yaşar Güler: We don’t have any problems with that.
Fidan: Second after it happens, it’ll cause a great internal commotion
(several bombing events is bound to happen within). The border is not
under control…

Feridun Sinirlioğlu: I mean, yes, the bombings are of course going to happen. But I remember our talk from 3 years ago…
Güler: Mr. Fidan should urgently receive back-up and we need to help
him supply guns and ammo to rebels. We need to speak with the minister.
Our Interior Minister, our Defense Minister. We need to talk about this
and reach a resolution sir.

Ahmet Davutoğlu: How did we get specials
forces into action when there was a threat in Northern Iraq? We should
have done so in there, too. We should have trained those men. We should
have sent men. Anyway, we can’t do that, we can only do what diplomacy…
Sinirlioğlu: I told you back then, for God’s sake, general, you know
how we managed to get those tanks in, you were there.

Yaşar Güler: What, you mean our stuff?
Sinirlioğlu: Yes, how do you think we’ve managed to rally our tanks
into Iraq? How? How did manage to get special forces, the battalions in?
I was involved in that. Let me be clear, there was no government
decision on that, we have managed that just with a single order.

Yaşar Güler: Well, I agree with you. For one thing,
we’re not even discussing that. But there are different things that
Syria can do right now.

Ahmet Davutoğlu: General, the reason we’re saying no this operation is because we know about the capacity of those men.
Güler: Look, sir, isn’t MKE (Mechanical and Chemical Industry
Corporation) at minister’s bidding? Sir, I mean, Qatar is looking for
ammo to buy in cash. Ready cash. So, why don’t they just get it done?
It’s at Mr. Minister’s command.
Ahmet Davutoğlu: But there’s the spot we can’t act integratedly, we can’t coordinate.
Güler: Then, our Prime Minister can summon both Mr. Defence Minister
and Mr. Minister at the same time. Then he can directly talk to them.
Davutoğlu: We, Mr. Siniroğlu and I, have literally begged Mr. Prime
Minster for a private meeting, we said that things were not looking so

Yaşar Güler: Also, it doesn’t have to be
crowded meeting. Yourself, Mr. Defence Minister, Mr. Interior Minister
and our Chief of Staff, the four of you are enough. There’s no need for a
crowd. Because, sir, the main need there is guns and ammo. Not even
guns, mainly ammo. We’ve just talked about this, sir. Let’s say we’re
building an army down there, 1000 strong. If we get them into that war
without previously storing a minimum of 6-months’ worth of ammo, these
men will return to us after two months.

Ahmet Davutoğlu: They’re back already.

Yaşar Güler: They’ll return to us, sir.

Ahmet Davutoğlu: They’ve came back from… What was it? Çobanbey.
Güler: Yes, indeed, sir. This matter can’t be just a burden on Mr.
Fidan’s shoulders as it is now. It’s unacceptable. I mean, we can’t
understand this. Why?

Ahmet Davutoğlu: That evening we’d reached a resolution. And I thought that things were taking a turn for the good. Our…

Feridun Sinirlioğlu: We issued the MGK (National Security Council) resolution the day after. Then we talked with the general…
Davutoğlu: And the other forces really do a good follow up on this
weakness of ours. You say that you’re going to capture this place, and
that men being there constitutes a risk factor. You pull them back. You
capture the place. You reinforce it and send in your troops again.

Yaşar Güler: Exactly, sir. You’re absolutely right.
Davutoğlu: Right? That’s how I interpret it. But after the evacuation,
this is not a military necessity. It’s a whole other thing.
Siniroğlu: There are some serious shifts in global and regional
geopolitics. It now can spread to other places. You said it yourself
today, and others agreed… We’re headed to a different game now. We
should be able to see those. That ISIL and all that jazz, all those
organizations are extremely open to manipulation. Having a region made
up of organizations of similar nature will constitute a vital security
risk for us. And when we first went into Northern Iraq, there was always
the risk of PKK blowing up the place. If we thoroughly consider the
risks and substantiate… As the general just said…

Yaşar Güler: Sir,
when you were inside a moment ago, we were discussing just that. Openly.
I mean, armed forces are a “tool” necessary for you in every turn.
Davutoğlu: Of course. I always tell the Prime Minister, in your
absence, the same thing in academic jargon, you can’t stay in those
lands without hard power. Without hard power, there can be no soft

Yaşar Güler: Sir.

Feridun Sinirlioğlu: The
national security has been politicized. I don’t remember anything like
this in Turkish political history. It has become a matter of domestic
policy. All talks we’ve done on defending our lands, our border
security, our sovereign lands in there, they’ve all become a common,
cheap domestic policy outfit.

Yaşar Güler: Exactly.

Feridun Siniroğlu: That has never happened before. Unfortunately but…
Güler: I mean, do even one of the opposition parties support you in
such a high point of national security? Sir, is this a justifiable sense
of national security?

Feridun Sinirlioğlu: I don’t even remember such a period.

Yaşar Güler: In what matter can we be unified, if not a matter of national security of such importance? None.

Ahmet Davutoğlu: The year 2012, we didn’t do it 2011. If only we’d took serious action back then, even in the summer of 2012.

Feridun Sinirlioğlu: They were at their lowest back in 2012.
Davutoğlu: Internally, they were just like Libya. Who comes in and goes
from power is not of any importance to us. But some things…
Güler: Sir, to avoid any confusion, our need in 2011 was guns and ammo.
In 2012, 2013 and today also. We’re in the exact same point. We
absolutely need to find this and secure that place.

Ahmet Davutoğlu: Guns and ammo are not a big need for that place. Because we couldn’t get the human factor in order…


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